The "Anders Denken" Podcast Turns 5: Looking Back with Founder Joost Belonje Episode #43 | With Joost Belonje and Host Cis Hageman
Five years ago, Joost Belonje launched the Anders Denken Podcast. What began in a small, out-of-the-way room has grown into a professional podcast that has now featured nearly sixty guests and a wide range of conversations about work, behavior, leadership, and sustainable employability.
In this anniversary episode, host Cis Hageman switches roles. Joost takes over as host and, together with Cis, looks back on five years of the Anders Denken Podcast.
A jar full of memories
To look back on the past five years, Cis and Joost randomly pick names from a jar containing the names of past guests. Using audio clips, they revisit memorable conversations, insights, and anecdotes.
Among other things, they discuss:
- Addiction in the Workplace and the influence of group behavior and organizational culture;
- Listening to Your Body, burnout, and the connection between body and mind;
- Hybrid Work and how organizations are handling it;
- The evolution of the podcast: from the first recordings without video to today's modern studio;
- The role of curiosity, open conversations, and unexpected perspectives.
Cis talks about which guests have left a lasting impression on him and why enthusiasm, vulnerability, and a fresh perspective on familiar themes are so valuable. He also looks back on the collaboration behind the production and the many locations where the podcast has been recorded over the past few years.
“It’s a privilege to be able to host this, in addition to everything else I get to do.”
A New Perspective on Work and Employability
The Anders Denken Podcast provides a space for conversations that go beyond the usual topics. Sometimes these conversations touch on subjects we’d rather not discuss. Other times, they explore developments that affect everyone but for which there is still no clear-cut answer.
By bringing together different perspectives, the podcast aims to encourage listeners to think differently about work, health, leadership, and sustainable employability.
Listen to Episode #43
Listen to this special anniversary episode of the Anders Denken Podcast featuring Joost Belonje, the podcast’s founder, and Cis Hageman, the host.
Listen to episode #43 and find out which conversations have left the biggest impression on Joost and Cis.

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